Climbing shoe terminology reddit A subreddit dedicated to discussing and reviewing climbing shoes. The shoes I have are on the cheap side (~90$), and I haven’t been able to find a solid answer on how much it would cost to get them repaired. 2K subscribers in the climbingshoes community. Shoe background: evolv pontas > ls cobra > ls theory Okay, so, i’ve been climbing for a little over 10 years, and i’ve been lucky enough to find shoes that fit my feet “almost”perfectly (getting to the almost part in a bit) by the second pair, so i’ve been getting the same sized cobra each time they are worn enough to be replaced. Differences in climbing ability are a lot bigger than differences between different shoe models. Dumb name, awesome product. I haven't enjoyed climbing in this shoe so far, so maybe a long break in? EDIT: I figured out why I don't like the toebox. Below, we’ll guide you through all the complex shoe terms and jargon, so you can buy shoes that will maximize your climbing performance and comfort. I'm forced to wear shoes very tight to try to get a good heel fit. Unless you happen to be one of those people who are naturally strong at climbing or just have great footwork right off the bat, you'd be wasting money on anything pricy because your at your level (I'm assuming) your hands and core will fail on you before your feet do and because youll be dragging your feet all over which When people talk this shoe is > than that for X its almost entirely preference. But if you want a softer side ,comfortable, semi moderate shoes that do it all then it’s a good choice. I got some aggressive shoes 3 years ago, 1. If you have used them for TWO months I doubt they’re going to stretch or become more comfortable at this point… My street shoe size is 44. I pick lace because I have wider feet. 5-1 sizes with evolv (0. Spend $160 on aggressive climbing shoes and then wear them to the gym to climb vert 5. Pretty comfy for a climbing shoe and have lasted a long time. Been browsing shoes recently, and I know it doesn't matter, but Men's designs from most brands are soooooo ugly. Currently wearing La Sportiva Finale at size 43. Abalakov thread Abalakov thread Also V-thread. The problem here is really that the quality of shoe you get from normal gym rentals doesn't justify the price (e. The rubber is soft but lasts for about 5 months for me. In street shoes men's are normally a D while women's are a B, but there is a decent amount of variation in what size people actually wear relative to their foot since the exact size often doesn't matter that much. Scarpa is cutting back production. Turns out my feet aren't low volume, but "duck feet"- narrow heels and wide forefeet, and most climbing shoe manufacturers don't make shoes in that shape. g £3 a session to rent shoes, 3x a week, is £460ish a year, it would nearly double the cost I'm paying the gym to climb there) I can buy 8 pairs of shoes for that or maybe 2 or 3 decent pairs) So obviously after just climbing a few Especially when it comes to shoes like this you have to find one that fits your foot right. ABD Also assisted braking device. I’m not a super duper climbing bro though, so take my opinion with some salt. Nothing wrong with getting a higher performance shoe if you find it on sale. I have pretty wide, flat feet with small heel (size 8. Hello! I was wondering if anyone is going through the same as i am so i figured i might as well ask after searching for endless posts. When trying both shoes on I found the knuckle of my big toe dug into the top of the shoe for the Instincts. Any insight, experiences, tips or even other shoe recommendations are very welcome. 5 USM street shoe) and tried out sizes 8. Was pretty close to quitting with other shoes. It's a tough choice but consider going for that $200 upgrade to start with. See C-grade. 5 and I want to down size another half size in my left foot since my feet are different sizes. Different shoe models do work better or worse on certain kinds of climbs, and some climbers find that some climbs are only possible for them in certain kinds of shoes. it’ll be difficult to find a shoe that works perfectly for your toes but the I would say it’s similar to other all around shoes like instant vsr , skwama, vapor s, flagship . 5 evolv pontas II) and slightly down for my second pair (8 butora acros). Don't dare dip your feet in that buttery sock. Soft shoes are probably your best bet for the gym. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Their general advice on sizing Unparallel is street shoe for flat profile, and half size up for downturned. 5 for shaman and 1 for phantom) and I find that they are very comfortable and still basically as high performing (for everything but really micro edging) as anything else I have. SoIll stands out in terms of design but I've also heard from their first run that they lacked in performance and durability. The 1 piece molded foot is the same thickness everywhere. They will force you to use your toes more which will help your technique long term. Additionally if you go outside and have some stiffer shoes it will feel like they are giving you a boost because you won’t have to work as hard to I love my Ocuns, best shoes I've ever had and only €90 for a pair of high performance shoes (vs €90 tarantula beginner shoes). I have worn Mythos and can tell you that you will notice an absolute difference once you buy a more technical aggressive shoe. My fiance was happy with her pair for about two years. (Only slightly more aggresive, no La Sportiva solutions or anything like that please). Also, the Mythos are not a super stiff shoe and climbing inside only, your shoes will last longer. 5 and my vegan Skwamas are 42. Unless you happen to be one of those people who are naturally strong at climbing or just have great footwork right off the bat, you'd be wasting money on anything pricy because your at your level (I'm assuming) your hands and core will fail on you before your feet do and because youll be dragging your feet all over which I have the same shoes as you and they're actually the first pair of climbing shoes that have fit me really well from day 1. Flagships and Souped up I got down half a size from street shoe, whereas I was going up in the Vim/Mocc. I’m on my second pair of climbing shoes, and I’ve worn through the rubber on the toes. A normal shoe has a thinner Rand, which puts the big toe closer to the wall/rock. Make sure you let your shoes dry completely between sessions, moisture is the enemy. 0 (hv) is WIDE. My friend climbs v2 in Dragos because she somehow managed to stumble on them for $50 and thinks they’re comfy. Closer fitting shoes are definitely helpful though! I go up from street shoe 0. I think after my first day of climbing they felt comfortable and Traverse. Put these in your shoes. I just boulder for fun and got grossed out by rental shoes + the rental prices. Try the shoe to see what feels natural and comfortable, if there is a trial wall move on the wall a bit and test the shoe. When a normal shoe flexes the pieces move independently of one another. r/RockClimbingShoes: A subreddit designed to help those looking for rock climbing shoes. Furias are just a little softer than dragos, but it's very difficult to get them these days. 8s. I had scarpa helixes I returned. As a beginner really aggressive shoes could make climbing quite painful. The Vertica shoes in 41 were a snug fit. I wear a 42. It felt better than the solution. The shoes definitely matter though depending on where you’re at in terms of climbing level. Toe box is wide with a small heel cup and size it with my street shoes size. EDIT: Should also mention: Decathlon/Simond shoes are quite popular where I live. Hope that helps! I think the proper diagnosis for early toe failure in shoes is usually someone like me, a not-so-light climber with super strong feet and ankles from years of running, cycling, and mountaineering using proper technique to weight the feet instead of the arms on climbs that are around vertical, and simply climbing in shoes that are too soft. LS Kubos are my all-round climbing shoes. It's really hard to understand unless you have worn out at least one pair. I've been climbing 4 years now. . it depends on how comfortable you feel and how you move with it on the wall. Hope this helps :) We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Some things to keep in mind are in the following paragraph. Also, synthetic shoes usually smell worse than leather shoes because they’re not as breathable. Went back to soft sticky shoes. TLDR: (1) Sensitive shoe - Scarpa Dragos LV; (2) Neutral shoe (in terms of sensitivity) - Tenaya Masais; (3) Edging/Stiff shoe - LaSpo Miuras VS (Women) Heads up for the long comment - I am a shoe fanatic (heels, sneakers, climbing shoes lol), and have been struggling for 4 years to find the perfect shoe. For example my street shoe size is 45(Nike) to 45 5/8 (Adidas). But even those are becoming baggy in the heel. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. 0, and 9 for the phantoms. These are both (relatively) cheap and popular. Thanks in advance. As for rope climbing, my home gym is bouldering only, so I just don't have a lot of access, but I do indoor rope climb maybe once a year. Check out our posts for advice and reviews. 5, 9. Nearly quit climbing altogether after feeling like i had to "level up" my shoe game and the store staff insisted of a pair that fit me perfectly (all while i complained i wont be able to climb in these - i was assured they will stretch and get more comfortable - that was a lie) now i am in this limbo land where climbing isnt enjoyable and i cant find a pair of shoes that make it enjoyable, not Seconding these as a beginner/intermediate. Some classic intermediate shoes are Kubo, Veloce, and Finales. I am currently using the La Sportiva Tarantula. 2. A beginner pair of climbing shoes will run you about $100 and a high quality pair will be around $200. Source: I have been selling and fitting climbing shoes for the past 3 years. The only downside to it, is that climbing shoes fit so differently than regular shoes. Get whatever is cheap and comfy (relative to climbing shoe comfort). 5 street shoe and my current comfy pair of gym climbing shoes is a 39. They aren’t really a good all around shoe and I only use them certain red points. 3. Aggressive shoes aren't necessary for progression, they're usually for specific styles and overhang climbing. It’s definitely not a try hard or super agressive overhang shoes. I’m wondering if it’s worth it to get them resoled, or to simply buy a new pair. If you're climbing in rentals then you'll probably climb the same grades or higher in either tarantulaces or boreal jokers. aggressive doesn't always mean better. Gorilla stomp. All of that background to say If you had to recommend 1 shoe, you used every climbing session (2-4 times a week for me) for indoor bouldering what would it be? r/RockClimbingShoes: A subreddit designed to help those looking for rock climbing shoes. The drone heels are plmuch better, with no space at all, and a better overall fit. I've always been a proponent of telling people to buy a really easy-going beginner shoe but then transition to some mid range well rounded semi-aggressive shoe. A climb that requires you to transition mostly sideways. Only thing I'd recommend to you as opposed to an actual beginner is to lean towards softer shoes if possible, since this will make overhangs more doable. 5K subscribers in the climbingshoes community. I definitely notice a difference when I’m climbing at my limit. Also known strap problems Sportiva Katana Lace: Felt like a good shoe, would have bought if it was on sale i totally agree with everything tango1911 said! and to answer your other questions, as you can see in the picture comparing the two shoes sole to sole, the drone cs hv are actually just medium volume (and the lv is very skinny) whereas the shark 3. If your shoes make you hate climbing then they are bad shoes. Yes aggressive shoes perform better on overhung and a stiff toe is better for tiny footholds while soft rubber is better on volumes but you can climb anything in anything. It'll happen some day, just hasn't yet. Generally I was looking for a more comfortable, aggressive shoe, because I had sized way down on my first ever pair of climbing shoes (6. Do: Get a resole before you need it. That being said, I found the shoes quite inconsistent across the range on this. I also climb outdoors every now and then, and have used Kubos for bouldering and sport climbing single-pitch routes. Sometimes the optimum shoe for a particular climb is not "aggressive" at all. If you’re choosing between street shoe and smaller I think you should stick with street. I got my shoes on sale for about $50 with tax and shipping. Learn good footwork. Something I do and could work for you is wear your beginner shoes to warm up in and then switch over to your moderate or aggressive shoes when you’re climbing at your limit. I have couple of friends climbing in Kubos, too. Love your shoes. Spend $60 on climbing shoes and be surprised when they fall apart after 2 months of gym sessions. I can downsize that much because I want the climbing shoe to fit that tightly and I need to try on 20+ climbing shoe models to find the perfect toe box shape. Deodorant spray just masks the smell, but doesn’t get rid of the bacteria/fungus. I am looking to get a more intermediate shoe. They hurt my feet less than any climbing shoe ive tried. r/climbingshoes: A subreddit dedicated to discussing and reviewing climbing shoes. 5 years into climbing - they're still in the cupboard as I found the pain and shape detrimental to climbing. The wide toe box saved my interest in the hobby. I wear scarpa vs womens/ low volume and still have dead space in my heels with the rest of the foot crunched. If they want to try a super soft shoe like this they should check out Scarpa Drago, Evolv Zenit and a slightly stiffer shoe might be La Sportiva Kubo or Butora Gomi. A vertical climb or overhang that includes many different types of holds laid out in a circular pattern so the climber can train endurance, grip work, and general technique. I am having a hard time deciding between the Scarpa Vapor V or Instinct VS. They're pretty broken in, now, and I don't have any pain from the shoes. The other brands all have a similar cheap shoe in either lace or velcro. And I gotta say between Solutions and Miuras they’re the most comfortable shoe straight out of the box. Beginner shoes and cheap, durable all-round shoes are the same thing. In the 80's people were in tennis shoes climbing harder than most of us ever will using anything. I have a pair of soill’s, I think they’re the street model. Softer shoes do wear quicker, but as others have said it is a game changer. Evolv Phantom: This shoe fit quite well but I hated the straps Sportiva Solution Comp: This had a quite good heel but I think based on the shoe last design is a bit wide for me. When you say first climbing shoe, are you new to climbing? If so, I would definitely not recommend these. One thing to consider is that if you are specifically looking for a training shoe don’t write off soft shoes. We all climb mostly indoors, 3 times per week, grade range 6B-7A. Any shoe above 50 euros will be an improvement. For me the heel fits best of any brand I tried. For both normal shoes, and climbing shoes, it really varies per brand. My girlfriend is looking to get a new pair of climbing shoes and would love some help/recommendations. Their cheaper shoes are used by quite a few beginner/intermediate climbers and so far I have not heard bad opinios on them. When I first started I didn’t like the idea of buying a “starter” shoe like the tarantulaces (a very popular starter shoe) because I knew I was going to outgrow a starter shoe quick, the groups I climb with are advanced climbers and go climbing 3-4x a week so I learned very quickly. When I bought them I got the same size as my prior pair, the Vapors, because the Vapors were painful for 2 years. 5 year now and started with some beginner shoes my size (38), in December i bought othe Honestly paying more will not give you better shoes "for you". End of the day it is always a personal preference. She's been climbing for a couple months now and wants something slightly more aggressive then her basic gym shoes. Note that I climb a lot in a very new and rough textured boulder gym. Circuit Board aka Systems Board. I went 2. I tend to aggressively downsize to the point of requiring plastic bags for break in. REI has 20% off sales and coupons quite often that apply to those $200 shoes. A A-grade Also aid climbing grade. A type of anchor used in abseiling especially in winter and in ice climbing. IE, get whatever "beginner shoe" is most comfortable. I've been climbing for 1. 5 sizes down from street shoes but everyone is different. In terms of sizing I wouldn't go too silly with sizing down. A term Climbing shoes are simultaneously the most ordinary and the most perplexing piece of climbing gear yet they have the greatest impact on your climbing performance and comfort. The technical difficulty grading system for aid climbing (both for "original" and an adapted version for "new wave"), which goes: A0, A1, A2, A3, A4, A5 and up to A6 (for "new wave").
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